grandparents rights

im trying to help my parents to find a reasonable lawyer so they can get grandparents rights to there grandson who is 4yrs old and and wants to be with grandparents and they are being denied to see or talk to him please help me if ya can thanks

This is not a referral service. You can use the find a lawyer to the right. Be aware that grandparents have no automatic rights to visitation and 4 year olds certainly don't get to decide.

Your post is short on details, e.g., whether the child's parents are still married, divorced, etc. If divorced, presumably the mother-father can allow grandparent visitation when mother-father has visitation. If parents are together, I know of no state that automatically forces parents to allow grandparents visitation. Any visitation award would be a real uphill battle and cost $$$$. (Not sure if $$$ is what you meant by "reasonable" lawyer.)

Your profile also mentions Utah.

http://www.le.state.ut.us/~code/TITLE30/htm/30_06003.htm

fathers not in the picture just my sister and she is bbys mother and ya my parents want to try to find a lawyer to see if there is a way to push for grandparents rites couse child is only 4 and her and her b/f arnt working to provide for bby and she gave bby to parents then lied to get bby back a week later after car was fixed and the bby doesnt like being there with her b/f and hes abusive towards bby thank you for you input couse im lost at this subject iv got 4 of my own kids so im just worried bout my nephew and she denies all family members to see him

ya i know he*s to young to talk for himself but for the concern is for the bby couse he wants to be with grandparents and his mom wont let him even talk to anyone in the family so my parents are trying to find one in ut to see if wat they can com up with thank you for your info i apreceiate it alot

First off, if you could try to follow site rules with regard to formatting-composition of post, that'd be great. It was difficult to read.

"... and she gave bby to parents then lied to get bby back a week later after car was fixed ..."

I don't know what this is supposed to mean in the scheme of things. Why would she have to lie to get her kid back?? Normally, one would just say "gimme my kid back"; regardless of circumstance, g-parents aren't in a good position to refuse.

If anyone is concerned about the child, the obvious natural first step would be to contact child welfare-family services department about it vs. trying to find a lawyer to see about visitation. :) If there's a reason for them not to have custody of the child, then grandparents can offer themselves up as a good alternative.

The site rules Fxston referred to are ones everyone agrees to abide by upon their registration. They say, "Format your message to look like the print in a newspaper, magazine or book by using capital and lowercase letters in a traditional manner. . . neither all caps, nor all lowercase. To help make your message easier for members to read and respond to, use standard punctuation."

Your messages are very challenging to read, since they lack capitalization, punctuation, as well as words that would make your phrases into sentences. Folks have to guess as they read your writing, and my guess is that a lot aren't will to do that. You could help us help you if you'd write traditionally.

Thanks,

Angie
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Where's the father?

Parents almost never have to allow grandparents any visitation whatsoever.

If mom wont allow contact, theres nothing they can do-this is their daughter's child, not thiers, and mom has the right to decide who can and cant have contact with the child. Either make nice with mom, or accept the fact that they will never see their grandchild again. Legally, they cant force mom to allow contact.