Auto dealership fraud

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Latest post 11-05-2009 5:28 PM by adjuster jack. 4 replies.
  • 11-05-2009 4:38 PM

    • zombirt
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    Auto dealership fraud

    My wife purchased a vehicle on 9/10 and got in an accident on 9/15-when I called my insurance company I was told the car was never added(the sales agent told my wife he would take care of it)We did not have coverage so [the insurance company] refused to repair it.I was told by the attorney general's office and the secretary of state that when a dealership applies for a new plate and registers a car they are supposed to show proof that the vehicle has full coverage-something the dealership did not do. The damage on the vehicle has been estimated at roughly 9000.00 and I feel it is the dealership's responsibility to have it repaired since they failed to report the car's insurance information when they applied for the new license plate.I live in Michigan and was wondering if I have a case against the dealership.

  • 11-05-2009 4:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Auto dealership fraud

    "I was told by the attorney general's office and the secretary of state that when a dealership applies for a new plate and registers a car they are supposed to show proof that the vehicle has full coverage-something the dealership did not do."

    The dealership would show that your car had full coverage only if YOU or your WIFE had called your insurance agent and informed them of the purchase and had the car added to the policy.  It is not the responsibility of the sales agent to inform your insurance company of the purchase it's yours.  They can't report insurance coverage it doesn't have.

    "I live in Michigan and was wondering if I have a case against the dealership."

    I don't think so.  It appears to be your own negligence in not updating your policy.  Adjuster Jack our resident insurance expert may have a different opinion.

  • 11-05-2009 5:08 PM In reply to

    • zombirt
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    Re: Auto dealership fraud

    That's the problem-I have never been able to drive off the lot without showing proof that the new car was indeed insured(especially when it is being financed)That is why I am surprised that the salesman did not make my wife call the insurance company before they let her sign off on the loan paperwork.I am basically just going by what our secretary of state's office told us about the potential for committing fraud on the dealership's side.

  • 11-05-2009 5:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Auto dealership fraud

    "That's the problem-I have never been able to drive off the lot without showing proof that the new car was indeed insured"

    In some states you have a certain number of days to add them to your policy.  Not a good option but dealers will let you drive off with the temporary tags.  Personally I would not have driven off without calling my agent myself.  The issue you are facing is not following up with your agent and making sure it was on the policy.  Certainly after a few days and not receiving new ID cards and a policy update you would have called your agent or the company to inquire as to why.

  • 11-05-2009 5:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Auto dealership fraud

    zombirt:
    My wife purchased a vehicle on 9/10 and got in an accident on 9/15-when I called my insurance company I was told the car was never added(the sales agent told my wife he would take care of it)We did not have coverage so [the insurance company] refused to repair it.

    If you already had a car insured that carried collision coverage, your policy should have covered newly acquired vehicles for the same coverage provided you asked the company to insure it within 30 days.

    I don't know if a Michigan policy reads the same as my AZ policy, but here's what my AZ policy says:

    • Section III - Physical Damage Coverages - Your Protection For Loss or Damage to Your Car
    • Definitions - The definitions from Section I apply to Section III and the following definitions also apply:
    • Then Item 9 on my policy: Owned auto means:
    • We insure all private passenger, farm, utility autos and trailers owned or leased by you on the date of such acquisition and you request us to add it oto the policy within 30 days afterward.

    See if you find something with all that in your policy.

    Reporting a claim should be the equivalent of asking to add the vehicle.

    On the other hand, if you didn't have collision coverage on the other car, that section would not apply.

    zombirt:
    I was told by the attorney general's office and the secretary of state that when a dealership applies for a new plate and registers a car they are supposed to show proof that the vehicle has full coverage-something the dealership did not do.

    Yes?

    And did they give you a statute number to look up and read? I doubt if they could even come up with one and I'd want to see the statute before I believed that was true.

    zombirt:
    I feel it is the dealership's responsibility to have it repaired since they failed to report the car's insurance information when they applied for the new license plate

    Sorry, but until I read a statute that says that, all I can tell you is that the ultimate responsibility for having insurance on your car is yours.

     

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