Public Intoxication

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Latest post 10-30-2014 9:02 AM by Drew. 8 replies.
  • 10-28-2014 8:47 PM

    Public Intoxication

    So my girlfriend got arrested the other day for public intoxication.

    Yes, Drew, I should have dumped her months ago:)

    Anyway, my 1st question is this.

    Whatever cash she had (which was actually MY cash I gave her) they converted the cash into a debit card rather than to just put the money into the rest of belongings.

    I looked around online and can't find there to be a law against this.  I suppose they can just take whatever cash they get from you, put it into their bank account, earn interest on it, and then hand you back a debit card when you are released?

    It took them well over an hour to give a card back with what is supposed to be the money on it, and it took less than a minute for them to take the cash and feed it into their machine so they could earn interest on the money.

    I'm just wondering.

    My 2nd question is this.

    They told her she'd have a right to call her lawyer.  They have phones there that use something call the TIP system.  She could not call anyone unless they were to get online and create a phone account for her in her inmate number and put down a credit card.

    When she called, all it says is that it's the TIP system and an inmate would like to speak to you, but you need to create an account and put out money to find out who.  She couldn't make even a single phone call as who would pay and it only would work with a landline phone, not a cell phone.

    Most anyone she knows, including me, only has a cell phone.  And if I don't know who or what I'm talking to, I'm unlikely to open an account and pay money just to find out.

    She never got a single phone call out of the place.  There's no law against that either I suppose?  I could not find one.

    When she was arrested, I told her to just shut up and ask to talk to her lawyer.  She did that but it was impossible for her to contact anyone except a bail bondsman.  That they let you do and seem to be handing out the phone number to everyone in there so they can bond themselves out.  That's the only "free call" she said she could have.

    Comments are appreciated!

    Thanks!

  • 10-28-2014 9:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Public Intoxication

    In theory, the system is designed to make getting arrested as demeaning, humiliating, and inconvenient as possible so that people think about the consequences of what they do before they do it again.

    Nothing illegal happened and your girlfriend's rights weren't violated.

     

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  • 10-28-2014 9:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Public Intoxication

    superman1:
    Whatever cash she had (which was actually MY cash I gave her) they converted the cash into a debit card rather than to just put the money into the rest of belongings.

    That's done primarily for security purposes. Cash just laying around, even in police station, can easily disappear. If they take the cash and deposit and put the card with her stuff, that's a lot easier to secure. Sure, if the person sits around in jail longer than a day, maybe the jail will make some interest off it, too. Nothing illegal about that, though. 

    superman1:
    They told her she'd have a right to call her lawyer.  They have phones there that use something call the TIP system.  She could not call anyone unless they were to get online and create a phone account for her in her inmate number and put down a credit card.

    I'd be suprised if the local criminal defense attorneys didn't all have landlines set up to take these calls. They are in the business of defending accused criminals, and lots of defendants contact lawyers from jail.

    The law requires that they let her contact an attorney if she wants to. She also has a right to reasonable bail, and the jail is going to want to help get her a bail bondsman to get her out — people in jail who don't need to be there costs the county money. 

    The law doesn't require that she have access to a phone to call anyone else. 

  • 10-29-2014 4:22 AM In reply to

    • DPH
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    Re: Public Intoxication

    superman1:
    I suppose they can just take whatever cash they get from you, put it into their bank account, earn interest on it, and then hand you back a debit card when you are released?

    Not disputing this possibility, but why do you think the county or whoever is earning interest on a prisoner's money?  Assume for a moment that the person in question is arested, has say $42.67 in their possession,  is locked up for 8 hours and then released.  How much interest do you think the agency would realize from this "transaction"? 

    Just saying....

     

     

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  • 10-29-2014 4:42 AM In reply to

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    Actually, my thought was that it's not just that $42.67 they have in a bank account, they possibly have a grand sum of money in one bank account from everyone that walks through their door.  That could possibly be a decent amount of money.

    I don't know how they do it, but it just seemed likely it was being run like a bank.

    The other issue is if it takes alot of time when you leave for them to process you a debit card, many with only $5 or so to gather are just going to leave it there and the county gets to keep it.

    Anyway, it is what it is.  I have not bailed her out.  This would be the 3rd time I'd have sprung her out and I'm not doing it.  She's in there til her court date which is the end of next month.  Even with a bail bondsman she would need to put up some money I would assume.

  • 10-29-2014 5:11 AM In reply to

    Re: Public Intoxication

    This is just follow up:

    I actually went to watch people attempting to get their money.  I asked questions of those leaving and apparently it's a slow process to get out (The sign in there says up to 4 hours).  Many with just a little bit of cash just wanted to get out of there and left their money.

    Her bail is set at almost $300 for a drunk in public charge.  

    Again there is no question here, just a follow up.

    As you say Jack, Jail isn't meant to be a fun place.

    Hopefully she's got some time to think about what she's been doing with her life.

     

     

  • 10-29-2014 8:56 AM In reply to

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    superman1:
    Actually, my thought was that it's not just that $42.67 they have in a bank account, they possibly have a grand sum of money in one bank account from everyone that walks through their door.  That could possibly be a decent amount of money.

    Probably is, but any interest earned likely helps defray the cost of running the place.

    superman1:
    The other issue is if it takes alot of time when you leave for them to process you a debit card, many with only $5 or so to gather are just going to leave it there and the county gets to keep it. I actually went to watch people attempting to get their money.  I asked questions of those leaving and apparently it's a slow process to get out (The sign in there says up to 4 hours).  Many with just a little bit of cash just wanted to get out of there and left their money.

    If a prisoner doesn't want to take the time to retrieve the money, that's the prisoner's problem.

    superman1:
    Anyway, it is what it is.  I have not bailed her out.  This would be the 3rd time I'd have sprung her out and I'm not doing it.

    A wise decision.

    superman1:
     

    Her bail is set at almost $300 for a drunk in public charge.  Even with a bail bondsman she would need to put up some money I would assume.

    Bond fees are paid in advance. Sometimes collateral is required like signing over a car title.

    superman1:

    She's in there til her court date which is the end of next month. Hopefully she's got some time to think about what she's been doing with her life.

    I suspect that she will be calling you to whine and beg for you to bail her out. Addicts can be quite compelling and wear you down after a while. I hope you are strong enough to be able to keep saying no to her. Although it's possible that there are others in her life that can't say no.

     

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    • to keep and bear arms,
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  • 10-29-2014 2:43 PM In reply to

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    Jack, I agree.

    The way I see it, jail is actually kind of an inexpensive method of sending her to rehab.

    It also has the added bonus that she cannot just decide after a couple of days to sign herself out and leave.

    They require cash or money order for bail, and it must be done in person.  That means superman is really her only hope until court date.  Everyone she knows says just leave her in there.  That includes both her parents.

    As they say, doing the same thing over and over again hoping you might somehow get a different result is the definition of insanity.  I don't need a crystal ball to know what the result will be if I bail her out.

     

     

  • 10-30-2014 9:02 AM In reply to

    • Drew
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    Re: Public Intoxication

    your crystal ball seems to work darn well...if you enable her habits  in any fashion they sure won't stop and you will soon be back here again. 

    Whether or not she qualifies for any assistance as to rehab programs ..you might seek if such apply.

    Addictions are a disability and she might qualify ......

     



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