Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

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  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 11:20 AM

    • djslay
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    Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    We have lived within the city limits at our present home for 23 years in Central Florida.  Our neighbor on one side has lived there for many, many years and are hoarders.  They have stacked piles and piles of broken equipment, old furniture, containers of stuff, two (2) old cars with junk piled on top of them.  All of this is stacked on our side of the yard up against our 6 ft. privacy fence.  Neglect of the yard has also allowed weeds to grow up and over our fence.  Because it cannot be seen from the road the Code Enforcement for the City cannot do anything about this problem.  They are very quiet people and keep to themselves, so we've tried to be good neighbors and ignore this.  However,  the odor and smell has elevated to the point that we cannot enjoy our back yard pool or open our garage door on that side to hang laundry.  We will be retiring in two years and this will prevent us from getting potential profit from selling the house.  Or, if we stay in this house we can't enjoy retirement activites outside due to the smell from next door.

    Any suggestions or advice would be deeply appreciated.

  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 11:33 AM In reply to

    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    Well, I am no lawyer, but I am familiar with your situation.

    My 1st wife was in fact a hourder.  It's a sickness of sorts and as you noticed, it's annoying.

    I have in fact had co workers that ran toward that tendency themselves.  

    I myself would start with just a talk with the power that be, I suppose cops, and just kind of suggest that they might want to pick up after themselves.  I'd be gentle at first.  

    As they say be nice, until you can't be nice.  And then continue to be nice with the help of others until you can no longer be nice.

    But just a gentle little poke and reminder might be just enough to get them to sort things out a bit.

    I wish you luck.

    Hourding is a sickness.  They just cannot help themselves.  However, hopefully, with some help, they will at least clean up the yard.

     

  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 11:34 AM In reply to

    • Drew
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    I doubt the local building or property maintenance code is limited to,what can be seen from the road...but the department might be lazy or simply avoiding getting between what it considers a neighbor to neifhbor  .gripe 

    Have you read the actual codes , taken pictures ( from a site that does not involve trespassing ). And made a trip to the relevant code office to ask for some help? 

    I had a neighbor to one of my rental properties...and any time there was a weed in the grass he punched a button at city hall...Im not saying I enjoyed his methods ....but he knew his way around city hall ..and the grass was more weed free there than in my home ...

    And I'm sure if there was trash or an open container that might have collected water and formed a mosquito breeding pot, he knew how to ring the health officers chimes. ..we never had  need to,test those. 



  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 11:39 AM In reply to

    • Arthur3
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    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    Once a hoarder always a hoarder. You can spend the rest of whatever time you have left on this earth fighting this or you can cut your loses now and move.

  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 1:02 PM In reply to

    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    djslay:
    However,  the odor and smell has elevated

    What sort of odor?

    If there's a potential health hazard involved (mold? food waste that could be attracting vermin?), then maybe you can get your local health department involved.  For mold issues, you might have to pay an expert to test air samples.  Most molds aren't very dangerous, just gross, but some will make you sick and some can even kill.

    It is also possible that your neighbor's junk pile is a fire hazard, so if you think that might be the case, the fire department might be willing to pay them a visit and eventually write them a citation.

  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 1:23 PM In reply to

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    Arthur3:

    Once a hoarder always a hoarder. You can spend the rest of whatever time you have left on this earth fighting this or you can cut your loses now and move.

    You got that right.

    karen2222:

    It is also possible that your neighbor's junk pile is a fire hazard, so if you think that might be the case, the fire department might be willing to pay them a visit and eventually write them a citation.

    Fire Department was my first thought.

    djslay:

    We will be retiring in two years and this will prevent us from getting potential profit from selling the house.  Or, if we stay in this house we can't enjoy retirement activites outside due to the smell from next door.

    Any suggestions or advice would be deeply appreciated.

    If all else fails you might have to resort to a Private Nuisance lawsuit against your neighbors. You can read about it at:

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/private+nuisance

    Count on spending a lot of money on attorney fees with no guarantee of success.

     

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  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 1:54 PM In reply to

    • Drew
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    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    Fire hazard...Might work ifmshemwantif right buttons.

    Health hazard..pray you find some vermin on a list of problem, then push the right buttons . 



  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 5:18 PM In reply to

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    Drew:
    ifmshemwantif

    ???

     

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  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 5:37 PM In reply to

    • Drew
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    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    Typo, 101 blunder...

    Fire hazard...Might work ifmshemwantif right buttons.

    Fire hazard ..might work if she pushes the right buttons 



  • Mon, Jun 29 2015 6:44 PM In reply to

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    Drew:

    Typo, 101 blunder...

    Fire hazard...Might work ifmshemwantif right buttons.

    Fire hazard ..might work if she pushes the right buttons 

    I could almost picture your keyboard exploding and keys flying all over the place.

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  • Tue, Jun 30 2015 5:27 AM In reply to

    • djslay
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    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    Thank you; you are so right!

  • Tue, Jun 30 2015 5:29 AM In reply to

    • djslay
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    Thanks.  However, to sell our house for much less than it's worth should be their loss, not mine.  Guess we might end up suing them if they don't clean it up.

  • Tue, Jun 30 2015 5:31 AM In reply to

    • djslay
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    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    Thanks Karen.  We are thinking along those lines.  Guess we need to talk to them nicely at first and offer to help them (physically and financially) to clean it up.  If they refuse, then it opens the door to whatever relief we can find from the authorities.

  • Tue, Jun 30 2015 5:32 AM In reply to

    • djslay
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    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    Thank you; will check this out!

  • Tue, Jun 30 2015 8:31 AM In reply to

    • Drew
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    Re: Neighbor is a Hoarder - City Code Enforcement won't help

    I think a suit against them for your supposed loss of market value is very unlikely to be rewarding escort for your attorney.  The probably have a legal right to maintain a cluttered yard and home ...I think you need to find a code,fire,health or some violation and some civil employee willing to enforce what ever it is. 



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