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Latest post Thu, Jun 16 2016 11:48 PM by Troment. 8 replies.
  • Mon, Jul 13 2015 8:43 PM

    • Lisa0617
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    Strange question

    My husband and I had installed security cameras inside our house awhile back. Our 13 year old granddaughter came to live with us and sleeps in one of the bedrooms that one of the camera's is installed in. One night we heard strage noises going on up stairs so we turned on the camera and got our eyes full of what was going on. Our granddaughter has mental issues anyway but this is a serious problem and I would like to discuss it with her counselor, but I need to know if having the camera and catching her doing what she was doing was in anyway illegal. I am not sure this is where to ask the question, but it is a family matter. 

    Thanks

  • Mon, Jul 13 2015 11:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Strange question

    Cameras positioned in places where one might be expected to see a person in a state of undress or engaged in some kind of intimate act, like a bathroom or bedroom, can indeed be a problem. A lot depends on the details here. What did you catch her doing? Note that it is not unusual or necessarily for teens to explore their bodies and try out things like masterbation. If that’s the sort of thing you saw, it might not be as troubling for her as you think. Again, the details would matter a lot.

    Note, however, that if that is the sort of thing that the video captured, that could be a huge problem for you, as that could be considered child porn. In that case, you best see a lawyer before you discuss it with any counselor or anyone else. 

  • Tue, Jul 14 2015 6:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Strange question

    Recording sounds may have violated wiretap laws.

  • Tue, Jul 14 2015 8:22 AM In reply to

    • Drew
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    Re: Strange question

    VA is a one party consent state ...but I think you may be over the line to record things where folks might have a reasonable expectation of privacy...

    Even if GD is into some form of self abuse or illegal consumption you might be smart to run the details past your lawyer FIRST. 



  • Tue, Jul 14 2015 8:49 AM In reply to

    Re: Strange question

    Lisa0617:
    My husband and I had installed security cameras inside our house awhile back. Our 13 year old granddaughter came to live with us and sleeps in one of the bedrooms that one of the camera's is installed in.

    Ummm...CREEPY much?

     

    Lisa0617:
    I would like to discuss it with her counselor, but I need to know if having the camera and catching her doing what she was doing was in anyway illegal.

    I doubt it (although that may depend on whether you have guardianship over the child and whether the camera feed was recorded or whether it was simply a monitoring camera).  However, as noted above, it's awfully creepy, and I can't imagine why there would be any legitimate "security" need for a camera in a child's bedroom.

  • Tue, Jul 14 2015 9:25 AM In reply to

    • Drew
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    Re: Strange question

    OP...you have a long series of posts about problems in getting control of your GC out of home you conted was unsuitable and issues with your local school board over GFs presence on school grounds.......the last thing you need is some contraversary over a spy camera for whatever purpose in a teens bed or bath room.....I think you want the cameras out of those areas with ZERO comments and you go see a lawyer ....if there are special needs due to disabilities ...Id want a far safer basis for privacy invasion than " security cameras"  and in the wrong hands .. Information about GF running security cameras could get him a trip to jail ....

    If there are special  health or safety needs of the child that need to be addressed...again ask a family lawyer before you tread into minefield. 



  • Tue, Jul 14 2015 10:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Strange question

    I just looked at one of your old threads in which you stated that your husband was convicted of raping a minor.  That being the case, having a spy camera in the bedroom of a child who is staying with you is just beyond stupid.

  • Tue, Jul 14 2015 11:23 AM In reply to

    Re: Strange question

    Lisa0617:
    but I need to know if having the camera and catching her doing what she was doing was in anyway illegal.

    I only know what I found in a web search.  I'm no expert.  According to this site, it's illegal in most states to record hidden camera video in a place where the person being recorded has a reasonable expectation of privacy, such as a bathroom or the person's bedroom - and both state and federal laws make it illegal to place a hidden listening device on another person or in a home where it can let you hear conversations in which you are not a participant.

    I couldn't find anything solid on whether this applies to parents spying on their children.  But a man with a sex crime in his background (even from long ago) looking at a teenage girl in her bedroom seems like something you should NOT tell anyone about no matter what.  I'm assuming you didn't see your granddaughter in a state of undress, but you had no way of being sure of that when you looked at the camera feed.  She could have been changing her clothes.

  • Thu, Jun 16 2016 11:48 PM In reply to

    • Troment
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    Re: Strange question

    I also vist this site wiseupshop, i'm support your opinion that it's illegal in most states to record hidden camera video in a place where the person being recorded has a reasonable expectation of privacy, such as a bathroom or the person's bedroom - and both state and federal laws make it illegal to place a hidden listening device on another person or in a home where it can let you hear conversations in which you are not a participant.

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