Thanks, I understand what you are saying. I know that i have no role here, but I am gathering information for my soon to be fiance. When I say we, I mean him. What I meant about the primary with residence, is that she has rights, but that my fiance is not obligated to child support and has the child for the majority of the time. If thats the same thing as full custody then that's fine. I did jump the gun on the adoption, and didn't mean for that to be a primary point of discussion, but instead an option down the road. So as for all of that, what does my fiance need to do to even have a fighting chance in this situation? Is it possible to have a contract drawn outside of court that lays out the role of each parent, ie the 50/50 split and a disabling of the ability to claim child support, since cost would also be split? Is that legal? My fiance really wants this baby to be part of his life, in more of a way than a check, and a weekend or too, why should that be so difficult? You would think in this day and age that the father would have the same rights as the mother. And actually, he didn't chose her to be the mother of his child, she claimed to use birthcontrol and actually wasn't. Granted initiating any sexual relationship comes with the possibility of a child and should be approached as such. I am not an uneducated woman, I am just not aware of all the legality of this sort of thing.