my right on drug testing by my pain management doctor

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  • Fri, Aug 21 2009 8:24 PM

    • zrbcolor63
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    my right on drug testing by my pain management doctor

    i was giving a take a drug test paper from my pain magaement doctor.

    without out prior notice without speaking to me without any writtewn notice. it state to look at very carefully for the pian med i take , but it look to be a general drug test which mean he is looking for all drugs.

    now i have nothing to hide i took one for this doctor but it was only to see if i was taking the med he gave me properly. that okay with me. and my attorney but now he checking all drug which to me is a invasion of my private life.

    so his the doctor withing his right to do this or is my right being voilated?????????

  • Fri, Aug 21 2009 8:27 PM In reply to

    • LynnM
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    Re: my right on drug testing by my pain management doctor

    Your doctor likely has an obligation to confirm your status before continuing treatment. Pain doctors have to be extremely cautious.

  • Fri, Aug 21 2009 8:52 PM In reply to

    • zrbcolor63
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    which i did when i took a blood test for him which found all my med in proper order. but now this is more than that now i am being told to take this test without any reason. i have not acted or gave him a reason to suspect me as anything other than a man who is a incredible pain for over 7 yr who has done everything asked of him , who now is being treated like a criminal for no other reason than that i take pain medication  again as long as i do and take my pain med a prescribe. why should i allow anyone to invade my private life

  • Sat, Aug 22 2009 3:37 AM In reply to

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    Pain management physicians are heavily scrutinized by the DEA for the large numbers of narcotic prescriptions that they write.  They are also known for being sought out by patients who abuse narcotic prescriptions.  If you truly need the meds then taking a UA to prove that you are not abusing your meds should be no problem. 

    For the patient who is abusing their medications and is using multiple physicians, larger quantities than normal, internet pharmacies, the street pharmacist, or stealing them it is going to be a problem. 

    It is not invading your private life when your treating physician does a legitimate medical test that determines you are taking a medication within prescribed limits of all narcotic and addictive medications.  This is accepted practice as part of pain management and obtaining the medication on an ongoing basis.  If you don't want to take the test you are welcome to discontinue your care as their patient and seek treatment elsewhere.

    I should add that many pain management specialists also have their patients sign a narcotic contract agreeing to use only one physician and pharmacy or lose the privilige of getting the prescription as well.

    "That's just my opinion, then again I might be wrong."  Dennis Miller

     

  • Mon, Aug 24 2009 9:30 AM In reply to

    • Ford
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    You can refuse his test . . .

    and seek medical help elsewhere.

  • Mon, Aug 24 2009 12:26 PM In reply to

    • LynnM
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    Aside from the fact that he's your doctor? How about the fact that if you refuse he can discharge you as a patient?

     

  • Tue, Mar 29 2011 4:33 PM In reply to

    • Mike1d
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    I've passed every UA in the past few years.  They were random and I didn't  have a problem with it!  My doctor has decided to do this every month!  What gives him the right!  He's not paying for the drug testing I'am.  I've been seeing him since 2004!  It's just another way for him to make more money.  I've argued with them on this issue every time I'm there!  Yes I signed a paper for random drug testing; not monthly.  The PA has told me that it's to insure that my medication is working with my body.  To this day she hasn't discussed my UA with me!  The UA has no bearing on how my body is reacting to my pain meds.  I can agree with you that some people sell there meds for profit or take other illegal drugs with ther pain meds.  But there should be a differnt rule of thump for people who need there meds and are in pain and have taken the UA many times without a problem.  Drug testing is very expensive and causes and increase in our medical expenses!  I can't afford and extra $200. dollars a month for this expense! 

  • Tue, Mar 29 2011 4:42 PM In reply to

    • LynnM
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    This post is really old.

    If you want your question answered, please start a new post.

  • Tue, Mar 29 2011 4:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: my right on drug testing by my pain management doctor

    No law requires you to continue seeing this doctor - you have complete freedom of choice.  If you don't care for his medical treatment plan (which now includes monthly testing) you are free to seek treatment from another doctor any time you wish.

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    • Ford
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    You aren't a prisoner...

    If you don't like what your doc is doing, you find another doctor.

  • Tue, Mar 29 2011 4:49 PM In reply to

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    I am not a lawyer but in my own personal opinion, that sounds like a great idea actually.

    I realize you feel your privacy is being invaded, but on the flip side, if this doctor is treating you, he probably needs to be very sure he knows what he's dealing with. 

    I'm not even close to an expert, but if you start going to 2 different doctors, and many people do, if the doctors don't know about the other and what he's prescribing, it could be really a bad thing.

    I am not saying you are doing a thing wrong, I'll only say I've had a number of relatives, as they got older, who I'm pretty sure were seeing a number of different doctors for a number of different things.

    Doctor A didn't know Doctor B, and quite honestly, as things progressed, certainly my grandma was taking far more pills than any one doctor knew about.

    I suspect this is likely a measure to prevent that in the future.

     

     

  • Fri, Sep 21 2012 7:41 PM In reply to

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    It certainly is an invasion of his rights. First it is not a medically needed test other than to protect the physician from charges of over prescribing medications for which he must pay for. Second, his integrity is being called into question without any probable cause very similiar to ourinnocent until proven guilty assumption. Third, he is being humiliated every time he has to piss in a little cup under the supsicion of drug abuser. Legitimate medical records already are present showing his condition if he is prescribed narcotics such as X-rays, MRI's, etc. so there is no doubt he is needing medicine or he would not be prescribed it in the firt place by the doctor. I really feel sorry for this gentleman as my mother who is elderly with sciatica has to undergo the same abuses by these damn clowns posing like it is to ensure her meds are taken right when they know the test they give cannot even place a limit via a urine test it would require blood testing. This is driving her healthcare costs up over a thousand per year and on Social Security she cannot pay it, so I do for her. Everyone needs to quite supporting these nonsense tests for some reason thinking people at pain managemetn clinics are drug abusers and deserve to be treated with costs in mind and with dignity. The doctors doing this are nothing more than cowards afraid to stand up for what is right for their patients and some attorney needs to step in and challenge this practice of pain management contracts which is definety as one party advantage contract as the doctor holds the pain killer they desperately need and its either sign or no medicine. No physician will prescribe pain medicine now except pain management doctors and they all demand a contract saying the same thing. This has to stop to many elederly and poor simply cannot afford non-essential treatments and they certainly should be treated respectfully.

     

     

  • Sat, Sep 22 2012 9:05 PM In reply to

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    johnny 999999991:
    It certainly is an invasion of his rights.

    It's not a violation of any right protected by law. The patient wants the pain meds, the patient will need to do the tests the doctor requests or risk the doctor terminating the relationship with the patient.

    johnny 999999991:
    Everyone needs to quite supporting these nonsense tests for some reason thinking people at pain managemetn clinics are drug abusers and deserve to be treated with costs in mind and with dignity.

    The problem is that a good number of patients seeking pain meds from pain clinics are addicted to drugs and do abuse them. Considering that the DEA may terminate the doctor's ability to prescribe these medications and that the the doctor may face other sanctions for prescribing these drugs inappropriately, it's not a surprise that most doctors are reluctant to prescribe such drugs to any one patient for an extended period of time. If you want a change in that posture, you ought to contact your U.S. Congress representative or senator for a law that changes how the DEA enforces the law on controlled substances. IMO, the DEA is a bit overzealous in this area and doesn't seem to care a great deal whether patients with chronic pain get the meds they need, but until either new DEA leadership changes the current practices or the Congress forces changes by law, it will remain a difficult problem for doctors and thus the trouble for patients with chronic pain will remain, too.

  • Sun, Sep 23 2012 9:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: my right on drug testing by my pain management doctor

    johnny 999999991:
    Legitimate medical records already are present showing his condition if he is prescribed narcotics such as X-rays, MRI's, etc. so there is no doubt he is needing medicine or he would not be prescribed it in the firt place by the doctor.

    These have nothing to do with the testing of toxicity levels of the meds in the patient, potential side effects, multi-drug interactions, etc.  It is also a basis to ensure that the medication is being used by the person for whom it was prescribed, and not being pocketed by someone else.

    The doctor has not only the right to protect himself; he has the obligation to protect his patient.

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